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I don't think we should punish the athletes that have worked so hard to get there, but we do need to pressure China's g'ment to stop their shenanigans.

I keep seeing stuff in the news that they're really improving with the issue. They banned smoking in most public places for example, and they're trying to clean up a bit more.
'S'all good!
(I always wanted to say that!)

To stay in a country what is not yours, that is the problem.

I think the situation in this country is... Unreal. The spoke about the dalaï-lama like if he was a terrorist... This men loves peace. He tries to speak, but they don't hear him... Maybe, at the end, there is no others solutions, except violence.

i think we should make pression on chinese 's gouvernement because what happen inthis country and the situation with the tibet is unfair!but could we consider that  boycott the olympic games will  change  something?Im not sure...but it could be the begining of something more important!

Last edited by andou (2008-03-22 05:41:00)

If it's a solution for stoping the violence of a china' governement it's good. When i see military who killed tibetans it's very revolting! And this governement prefer violence except the words, it's not a solution.
The governement of china realize a genocide and repress the people. It's is damage because the culture of china is very important and beautiful but the governement is completely the opposite
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sky_jiangchun wrote:

Etienne wrote:

tulip wrote:

It's our business on the Tibet issue.
Have you ever been to China?So,do you know the fact that happened in China?
No see,no comment!
You may have a comment when you live here.
What is your human right??Is that rebellion in somewhere,and use violence?

Who are you talking to ?

I don't know China that much and reporters might exaggerate the situation as they always do, but I'm pretty sure there's an actual problem over there about human rights..

i would like to say whats human rights? China as a counrty of more than one billion people and of course it needs time to perfect itself.  你这个SB为什么要把 Olympic 和 human rights 联系起来？nnd! No see,no comment!
You may have a comment when you live here.

http://video.sina.com.cn/news/c/bn/2008 … 3387.shtml  video about Tibet issue

shmegalah wrote:

it shouldn't be about the politics. just let the athletes go and compete.

nice

I admit I don't know well the situation in Tibet, but I studied this subject two years ago and, in my opinion, Onu should do something. That's true: I'm from Italy and it's very different from China. What I know is that Chinese Government is a bit restrictive and it's not right! I attended an English course in UK last summer and in my class there was a Chinese girl who doesn't know people like the Pope or (sorry for the following example) Madonna, the singer! My grandma doesn't know her too, but she doesn't surf the Internet and watches soap operas on tv. What I wanna say is that censorship isn't right and Chinese people must be informed of what's really happening in Tibet.

Ok, I'm off topic.
As for the Olympics, I think athletes must compete, it's too late to boycott this event (it wouldn't be nice after all these years of training),. The Tibetan question has been going on since more than fifty years.

Jiang, if you want some info, have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet

Last edited by the_Clutz (2008-03-28 13:17:50)

now,here,i am chinese.you guys should listen to the opinions from chinese people.
well, i think all your opinions are invariably originated from the instinctive hostility towards the country under the title"socialism".i hate this title too.it represents the repression, the tyranny.it gives the infame to every chinese,of course,including me.
but, believe me.that title is just a title.china is a definitely free,open country.otherwise,how can the olympic committee awarded the 29th olympic games for beijing? we are totally different from those so-called socialism countries.such as north korea,which is still insulated from the outside world;cuba,which has just permitted their people using cellphones recently. China is a normal country as yours.just somehow reserved the tittle"socialism country".
just come and have a glimpse of china,you will understand what china now is.

French-Touch > Okay, I write in english so everybody can understand.
Of course China isn't (doesn't seem) as free as France, but do you really think we're (french) all as informed and free as the french government wants us to think? There's still censorship. The medias are still subjective and biased, and still only show us what they want us to know. In the way they want us to interpret it. Of course there are some exceptions, such as "La Télé Libre", but it's not even legal!

We don't shoot the demonstrators here...

Oh we don't? But I still don't feel safe in the streets when it happens. And it's not because of the demonstrators, but rather because of the CRS...

Anyway, I don't know enough about the Tibet/China issue to be able to judge any country/people or tell whose fault it is. I just think the Olympic Games should represent the peace and the good part of the sport (I mean, except all this money-at-all-costs stuff) and as it's already been said, athletes deserve to compete, and the boycott won't make things any better... Of course it's only my view.

Yet I have to admit I agree with you French-Touch, about things that China shows to its people and to the world... That's the same as in France or the US anyway. However, my litterature teacher couldn't even get out of the airport in Beijing because she had too much french revolutionary books and the police couldn't run the risk someone might read them and take those insane ideas for real...

But it's still my opinion, and I don't know how people can get to blame this or that country if, as it's been said, they've never seen how it's really going there.

Last edited by Nokciolina (2008-03-29 11:12:19)

just wait and see
we'll present u the best olympics ever!

Nokciolina wrote:

French-Touch > Okay, I write in english so everybody can understand.
Of course China isn't (doesn't seem) as free as France, but do you really think we're (french) all as informed and free as the french government wants us to think? There's still censorship. The medias are still subjective and biased, and still only show us what they want us to know. In the way they want us to interpret it. Of course there are some exceptions, such as "La Télé Libre", but it's not even legal!

We don't shoot the demonstrators here...

Oh we don't? But I still don't feel safe in the streets when it happens. And it's not because of the demonstrators, but rather because of the CRS...

Anyway, I don't know enough about the Tibet/China issue to be able to judge any country/people or tell whose fault it is. I just think the Olympic Games should represent the peace and the good part of the sport (I mean, except all this money-at-all-costs stuff) and as it's already been said, athletes deserve to compete, and the boycott won't make things any better... Of course it's only my view.

Yet I have to admit I agree with you French-Touch, about things that China shows to its people and to the world... That's the same as in France or the US anyway. However, my litterature teacher couldn't even get out of the airport in Beijing because she had too much french revolutionary books and the police couldn't run the risk someone might read them
and take those insane ideas for real...

But it's still my opinion, and I don't know how people can get to blame this or that country if, as it's been said, they've never seen how it's really going there.

It's sad to say...But you are right.

We don't live in a free country. Nobody realy do i think. But.. I mean.. here, we are more free than somewhere else. For sure, a lot of papers are censored by our "great" president, by the medias themselves, by the big firmes and so.. But you already can find the truth. you just have to choose the informations. read the "canard enchainé" "charly hebdo" "marriane" "L'humanité"..

for sure.. It is hard to protest here., and we should not be happy of our situation..But imagine in China...Or somewhere else